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    Quote Originally Posted by Navegante View Post
    AHD is at a disadvantage in the sense that their setup is costly and needs a dedicated board.Makofoil is the real contender now.During the Defi I talked to the guys from Horue whom are coming out with an improved version in a few weeks.The race is between makofoil and horue.
    You can see that the bigger AHD foil starts earlier than the Horue, although the size of boards, sailors and sails also affects this. They don't seem to have run the AHD foil in the races?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHL5148AA3Q

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    The Horue started adequately enough(ie no trip up) but the uplift generated in marginal winds always nose dived the boards when others brands have foiled away, seems to me manufactures go for style ove substance in choosing their board size rather than ease of use for us?. As within "normal" boards deweighting your feet and pumping the sail brings them up on the wtf foil, but always vulnerable to chop.

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    This one shows that you can make something quite simple looking that works.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF3w5nRxFDk

    Not so successful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC4AnbwW1DI

    Its going to be freaking embarrassing though if one of these guys is hanging around while you windfoil. That may be the biggest downside.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsDUcfhBYR8

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    Foiling is one reason I would consider kiting. For the bear minimal windspeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navegante View Post
    Foiling is one reason I would consider kiting. For the bear minimal windspeed...
    The downside with very low winds is you have to get back in when you can't relaunch the kite. Also, if you get separated from the board, can you get back to it with the kite taking you downwind.
    Very low winds are also prone to change direction. If the direction changes offshore....

    Windfoiling in light wind tends not to have the same problems as you can lie on the board and paddle in, or stand and pump the sail sometimes.

    The AHD hydrofoil is bigger than any of the others IMO, but it is supposedly capable of foiling in 4 knots of wind (I doubt that is correct), although that may not be the speed of wind it can get going in.

    This is all speculation on my part though. I'm quite happy for someone else to do the showing of what is possible and is it practical.
    The Alex Aguera video at least showed him pumping the board onto the plane with a 3.7m sail. The 2.5m sail video showed the chase board windsurfer was using a 4.7m sail, so it was quite windy.
    I think if you can get a freeride board with an extra finbox and a foil that will work with a freestyle sized sail, then it could have a future when there is too little wind for freestyle.
    Like this gear in this wind.
    https://vimeo.com/24217800

    The Hyper Sonic is no more. That was a board that was very efficient and smooth once it got going, but it needed more wind to get going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navegante View Post
    Foiling is one reason I would consider kiting. For the bear minimal windspeed...
    I had similar thoughts but after watching hydrofoils for a couple of years I have number of doubts.

    • First is the complexity: they make Formula boards look simple
    • Second is the safety: they made kiting more possible in places like Crissy Field (with its tides of up to 4 knots) but still when they drop (and they do) they are at the mercy of the sea. And I witness a lot of board/kiter separations. Many more than with normal kites.
    • Than speed: they are slow..
    • And last is wind minimum: at least where I sail the winds below what is enough for 7.5-8.5/110-120L slalom are quite erratic and they do not do any better in those conditions. They go but if the wind drops they drop, come up, go for a bit, drop ... makes one wonder if a serenity or longboard or windsup would be more fun.
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