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    First back loop attempts

    Can anyone advise me? I have had a few attempts at the back loop but seem to be getting stuck at the top (before landing on my back) if that makes sense. I am sure I have enough speed/height and I can definitely feel good rotation off the lip but don't seem to be able to get the board past 9/10 o'clock on a port tack.

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    Good thread JoB as that is happening to me too kinda - not that I am exactly attempting them, more "having a look". I'm not the type (or at least the age!) to chuck myself at it 100% - I want some control first - so I want to be able to gradually increase the rotation while I get the feel for it (this seems to be what good back loopers do anyway when you watch them - i.e. go up and then gradually rotate in a controlled manner on the way down). So I'm hoping the answers in this thread are not of the "MTFU and chuck yourself into it" variety because I won't be doing that.

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    I can't do them, but have being having a feel as it were after reading Jem Hall article on them a while back. I'm not sure what's meant by can't get past 9/10 o'clock though. Can you explain more?

    I'm at the stage where I find a steep ramp, jump vertically then put the nose of the board through the wind so that it gets to what I'd call 1 o'clock ish then pulling it back through the wind, landing and sailing off. Jem's article worked along the lines of get to that point, learn how to land nose first, then try and go the rest of the way round. When I say 1 I mean I'm sailing along on starboard tack with the board on the water and pointing to 9 o'clock, the nose goes to 11 o'clock as I hit a steep ramp then it's going to 1 o'clock and into the wind before I chicken out and bring it back down.

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    I've landed a few (evidence on my blog). The trick for me to stop getting stuck at the top was to tuck up the back leg and swing your hips over the tail of the board, so you aren't dangling like a spider and blocking the rotation.

    Then the next thing to practice is getting your back hand waaay down the boom, that helps make the rotation controllable.
    http://forwards4cowards.blogspot.com/ a blog about looping

    UPDATED Feb 2016

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    Cheers Rod, what you say seems to make sence but can I ask how soon to tuck up back leg? I will be trying this the next time we have wind. Just had a run of good days here in Rhosneigr so hopefully it will return soon.

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    This is a very comprehensive article by Andy King on the K4 website. It was put up quite recently.
    It has photographs, video and text that explains how to build up and plan your progress.

    https://www.k4fins.com/2016/06/11/ba...ion-andy-king/

    Good luck, hope to witness one is of your loops at Rhossy one day!

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    I land at least a couple most sessions and get robbed on many more every time I get the opportunity

    The way I learned them was to do a regular high jump with weight back, rig/hands close to torso and back foot tight to butt, wait until board's nose is close to jump apex and start to look over front shoulder and downwind to spot landing spot. I have the back hand down the boom to help in the impact and pull from the rig. I'd intentionally under rotate a bit and safely crash nose first. As I got the feeling of the rotation, I'd go a little further each time. Finally I stuck my first one nearly dry when I thought I'd over rotated just a few degrees but hung on tightly. Nearly all of the backies I land perfectly feel like I'm just a bit over rotated, but this is more a feeling than reality. You can then experiment a bit by opening/closing the rig or body position to slow or encourage more rotation. Never "throw" the backie; it should be a vertical, nose high jump followed by a look over the shoulder to SPOT the landing (critical) and a nice easy nose first landing. Throwing the rotation just makes the move dangerous and gives random results. The look over the shoulder initiates the body and rig rotation (you kind of "fall" into the rotation on the way down from the apex). Be very aware of where you are looking; it's easy to look around and enjoy the view while you're up there, but focus on the landing and your chances of success go way up. Also grit your teeth and hang on for the impact. You've got to want it enough or it's easy to let go at the crucial moment.

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