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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazzabee View Post
    I'm a fan of the original 2016 Reactor 82L and would be happy to have one in my quiver for big wave days e.g. trips to Gwithian. I'm guessing it needs a smaller bucket i.e. less rocker though for more all round appeal, hence the changes they made to the 2017 version.

    When I look at my Reactor I don't see lot of rocker. I also don't recognise the 'dragging a bucket' suggestion.

    That leaves me wondering why other people have a different experience to me and the conclusion I came to is that this is often about board size.

    If I'm on an 82 litre board and I weigh less than 75kgs then the board will respond differently than for the 80kgs guy. (Plus my rigs are very lightweight).


    That weight/loading difference then affects how low the board sits in the water and how 'sticky' it is.

    Other stuff also makes a difference – footstrap positions and sailor stance, and your natural ability to pop a board to get it going. (The lighter guy should get a board unstuck sooner) With the Reactor, I always feel it's the extra nose width that makes it less user-friendly when getting going. The nose is the sticky bit, rather than the rocker, and the key to early planing is to get that nose clear of the water asap. That same wide nose then brings benefits on a clean wave face.

    The Reactor also planes a bit earlier when set up as a twin fin (less fins = less drag) but the normal quad setting is gloriously 'drivey' on the wave face and no limit to early planing if you are well powered up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basher View Post
    I also don't recognise the 'dragging a bucket' suggestion.
    This relative to other stubbies I have sailed, not necessarily an absolute evaluation. There is no doubt IMHO that the 2016 Reactor is more draggy than its equivalent sized 2017 cousin or a Fanatic Stubby or Quatro Super Mini for example, but I would choose it over any of those boards for full power big choppy cross/cross-off. With familiarisation and good technique I'm sure it's still possible to get it planing early, and yes I only sailed it with the quad fin configuration.
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    I don’t know many sailors who like a slow board, and generally, that means slow to plane and slow top end speed.
    Apart from specialist side shore or high wind wave sailing boards, you’ll generally prefer a quicker board.
    So the black box and reactor became one trick ponies, able to tear up an onshore wave with a proficient well powered up sailor, but too limiting for general users and conditions.

    As to which is is more important, I can’t say, but then I’m just a pleb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PK1111 View Post
    I don’t know many sailors who like a slow board...
    Oh Oh I know one! Me! The original Evo was seriously slow, like dragging an anchor. But because it was wide, buoyant with chunky rails you could turn it at really slow speeds and not bog the rail. I loved it for that reason. The board I am just finishing is probably going to be slow too. It has a rolled V, not too much rocker but a fair amount for its short length and it has soft chunky rails. Perfect for Yaverland's small side shore wind swell waves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB:) View Post
    Oh Oh I know one! Me! The original Evo was seriously slow, like dragging an anchor. But because it was wide, buoyant with chunky rails you could turn it at really slow speeds and not bog the rail. I loved it for that reason. The board I am just finishing is probably going to be slow too. It has a rolled V, not too much rocker but a fair amount for its short length and it has soft chunky rails. Perfect for Yaverland's small side shore wind swell waves.
    THis is why I always hated the Evo's ...

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    The smaller sizes were quite quick. I had a 66, a 70litre and an 80litre.
    And the Evo 80 I had was actually more like a FSW, with zero tail kick but very fast.

    I do remember that the original Evo 74 was a bit slow though.


    NuEvos are a bit slow by FSW standards but remain controllable on the wave and when overpowered.


    If you are into speed and jumping then, for sure, you want something faster. Not me though.
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    So is this a waveboard only thread or can anyone join in??
    Wide nose/short length...nothing new there. Light wind slalom boards like the Isonic 133 used those design criterea...albeit on a grander scale.

    I have no doubt there other innovative designs that passed me by but I was lucky to own 2 completely different boards that flattered the rider.....assuming you learnt to use them properly. So in response to the original question, yes, for the average weekend warrior ( or even the lucky ones like me that can include weekdays!) a board that has all the right design clues delivers the goods. The same competent weekend warrior will have a far less pleasing experience with a poorly designed board.
    The 2 boards I will quote are the Starboard Isonic 107 and the Tabou Rocket Wide 108.
    The Isonic 107 is super fast, gybes well, steams upwind, has a huge wind/sail range and handles most water states..............it just needs the right tuning, the right sail, a lot of energy and nerves of steel once fully lit.
    The Rocket Wide is pure freeride but does all the same just not with the same frantic acceleration or top speed potential.
    I do not have a clue what specific design aspects make this possible given the 2 boards are very different..........but luckily Starboard and Tabou designers seem to!!

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