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  1. #36
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    "......designed to meet the needs of beginner ......". I doubt it . Windsurfing remains hard to get a fun level, and nowadays there are easier alernatives
    Boards: F2 Gorilla 76, Tabou Quadster 86, Fanatic Triwave 95, Starboard Kombatwave 96, F2 Stoke 115, JPFreeRace 125, Sails: Gaastra Poison 4.2, North Hero 4.2, North Ice 4.7, Simmer Icon 5.3, Gaastra Cross 6, Ezzy Elite 6.1, Tushingham Storm 6.5, Severne Turbo 7.5

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    Do we go back to the days of wooden tie on booms, hanging a dagger board over our arm, carving the ourselves in the first place? How far do we go back?

    You thoughts on switching to formula are just daft. That is an entirely different concept and a horrid one IMO at that. Lighter board but the width of a garage door and a rig that needs a tam of Gurkha to both rig and lift, no thanks. Kites are not sailing. Npt sure what your were getting at there, totaydifferent sports.

    I do agree that the focus has been for far too long on high wind sailing and waves etc. Sailing a longboard well is quite a challenge both physically and skill wise. The feeling of sailing on the edge of control in light winds with a relatively small sail is amazing, especially on a sunny summers day when only longboards and freestyle riders are out. That is one reason SUP has become popular, it can be done on those summer days.

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    I don't understand this thrill we get from putting down or over-criticizing this undertaking.
    I admit my bit. I think it is a different board but the spirit is the same, like many old farts here i am nostalgic for the original one.

    We simply admitted the appearance of WindSUPs without much fuss and many bought a Sup and are proud to re-tell their exploits on a wave SUP in flat water... how lame is that within the general lameness of SUPing?

    In it's day the gathering of Original Windsurfer friends and families was a great joy where many got started and then move on to the diversity this wonderful sport continues to give us. Other classes too, Mistral, Windglider, Bic,

    I made valuable friends during those competitions and/or simply week-end gatherings. Myself I continue to make friends in the spirit of that era some valuable ones in this forum.

    Some of those early friends I have found again nearly forty years after and still sharing our love for windsurfing and, yes, the nostalgia for the days when we started, the miles we drove to one gathering or another sharing a van full of six stack of the roof rack of our vans, pick-ups, or dad lending the family car with as many people inside as boards on the roof.

    You see the guy or girl, you recognize each other, perhaps you only knew their first name, you meet by chance at a windsurf shop (today multisport) or simply at the beach, you know that face. There is an instant brotherhood born from the spirit of those days in which we all had very similar gear and very same joy for the life we were experiencing, those regattas, the sunsets by the sea or lake, the barbecues and bonfires late into the evenings loudly and excitingly conversing going over the thrills of the day, the competition, the trip. The music coming from inside a car. Often someone playing a guitar, no earphones, no mp3 players and yes, maybe the odd one with an early yellow sports Walkman.

    You greet that face and the experiences you shared or similar you each had start coming out like a cascade, Remember such and such? Yeah! Still around? Yeah man he/she are over at such this or other place, and the names and faces start coming back.

    All in the spirit the Original Windsurfer, Mistral, etc gatherings gave us.

    If this new Windsurfer reproduces that spirit in a new generation the sport will live on in the newer generation and that is and continue to be a beautiful thing.
    Last edited by Navegante; 22nd April 2018 at 11:53 AM.

  4. #39
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    Navegante - if people want the social ide they can get all that through kiting or something else which offers more fun for less effort
    Boards: F2 Gorilla 76, Tabou Quadster 86, Fanatic Triwave 95, Starboard Kombatwave 96, F2 Stoke 115, JPFreeRace 125, Sails: Gaastra Poison 4.2, North Hero 4.2, North Ice 4.7, Simmer Icon 5.3, Gaastra Cross 6, Ezzy Elite 6.1, Tushingham Storm 6.5, Severne Turbo 7.5

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    Phill, it's "going back" in the same way that Raceboarding is "going back" from kiting, Formula or Division 2. That is, it's not "going back" at all. One may as well say that a guitar is "going back" compared to a synth, or that windsurfing is "going back" compared to kiting or tow-in surfing. This sort of board is something different. It's simpler, it's more responsive in some ways and less responsive in others, it's more aimed at tight fast-tacking tactical racing.

    Maker, how much time have you spent socialising in a One Design fleet recently? How do you know the effort involved?

    In our fleet, there was lots of socialising and little effort because a board that works well in light winds and in shifty conditions is ideally suited to things like Wednesday afternoons on the lakes, rivers and other small waterways you tend to get where most people live. On days that were too light for kites, in places that were too confined for kites, you can get out, have a great tactical race on cheap and simple gear that rigs quickly and then you all go for pizza and a drink. That's less effort than schlepping through traffic to get to the kite beach and then getting skunked and driving home by yourself; less effort than going to buy a 2019 kite because it's faster than your 2017 one.

    It's not "more fun" to kite, which is why for example a former national kitesurfing champ was one of my arch rivals in One Designs. It's a different sport. One may as well say that cycling is "more fun" than running; sure I happen to prefer being on a bike and the bike is faster, but it still just gets down to personal preference and tastes.

    Surely SUPping has shown us that the idea that faster and more modern is better and will be more popular is a fallacy. And kiting has shown us that newer and more extreme = better is also a fallacy.

    Anyway, keep on hating and slinging **** if it makes you all feel better.

  6. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navegante View Post
    I don't understand this thrill we get from putting down or over-criticizing this undertaking.
    I admit my bit. I think it is a different board but the spirit is the same, like many old farts here i am nostalgic for the original one.

    We simply admitted the appearance of WindSUPs without much fuss and many bought a Sup and are proud to re-tell their exploits on a wave SUP in flat water... how lame is that within the general lameness of SUPing?

    In it's day the gathering of Original Windsurfer friends and families was a great joy where many got started and then move on to the diversity this wonderful sport continues to give us. Other classes too, Mistral, Windglider, Bic,

    I made valuable friends during those competitions and/or simply week-end gatherings. Myself I continue to make friends in the spirit of that era some valuable ones in this forum.

    Some of those early friends I have found again nearly forty years after and still sharing our love for windsurfing and, yes, the nostalgia for the days when we started, the miles we drove to one gathering or another sharing a van full of six stack of the roof rack of our vans, pick-ups, or dad lending the family car with as many people inside as boards on the roof.

    You see the guy or girl, you recognize each other, perhaps you only knew their first name, you meet by chance at a windsurf shop (today multisport) or simply at the beach, you know that face. There is an instant brotherhood born from the spirit of those days in which we all had very similar gear and very same joy for the life we were experiencing, those regattas, the sunsets by the sea or lake, the barbecues and bonfires late into the evenings loudly and excitingly conversing going over the thrills of the day, the competition, the trip. The music coming from inside a car. Often someone playing a guitar, no earphones, no mp3 players and yes, maybe the odd one with an early yellow sports Walkman.

    You greet that face and the experiences you shared or similar you each had start coming out like a cascade, Remember such and such? Yeah! Still around? Yeah man he/she are over at such this or other place, and the names and faces start coming back.

    All in the spirit the Original Windsurfer, Mistral, etc gatherings gave us.

    If this new Windsurfer reproduces that spirit in a new generation the sport will live on in the newer generation and that is and continue to be a beautiful thing.
    Well said.

    The people involved in the Windsurfer fleet have sailed just about everything. They've won wave, slalom, race and overall World Cups; they've sailed 100 foot canting supermaxi yachts and offshore multis, won the 18 Foot Skiff Worlds and the pro Grand Prix, won the Olympic Tornado catamaran Europeans, won kitesurfing championships, represented their country in the surfing world titles, sailed the Olympics on D2s, Mistral Raceboards and RSXs.

    Despite the sneers on this forum, these people are not fools or on a nostalgia trip. They understand the appeal of a very simple way of sailing in all weather conditions. They know the feel of a board that glides easily, that turns very quickly, that is great for longboard freestyle, that takes almost no maintenance and that starts to feel powered up in light winds even under a light rig.

    Other forms of windsurfing are just as wonderful; many of us who sail One Designs have done just about all of them. This is something different, just as simple backpacking is different from luxury camping, just as a SUV is different from a sportscar, just as fine white wine is different to a top whisky, just as a SUP is different to a big wave gun surfboard. All of them are great; it's just a pity that some love to hate.

  7. #42
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    Apologies for being too outspoken earlier; it was late here.

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